“When you’re creatively burnt out, your brain doesn't think of the solutions, it only thinks of the problems.” Meet Frank Carlis—COO of the ExV Agency, a global PR and content production agency, and award-winning Director of Creative Content at ExV Studios. Frank sat down with host Dave Valentine to discuss how he’s dealt with creative burnout both personally and within his organization. This episode covers topics ranging from systems and operations, EOS, routines, exploration, collaboration, compartmentalization, and getting back to doing the things your inner child wants to do. Our goal is to have fun and learn along the way. Welcome to the InWork Podcast.